Matava - Fiji...Untouched

3.5-stjernet overnatningssted
Resort ved bugten med spa med fuld service og gratis morgenmad

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Udvendig detalje
Internationale retter, havudsigt
Lounge
Lounge i lobbyen
Overnatningsstedets facade

Populære faciliteter

  • Gratis lufthavnstransport
  • Spa
  • Bar
  • Morgenmad inkluderet
  • Pool
  • Roomservice

Værelsesmuligheder

Tilgængelige filtre for værelser
Viser 2 ud af 2 værelser

Bungalow - havudsigt

Højdepunkter

Gårdhave
Individuelt møblement
Individuelt interiør
Loftsventilator
Seng med topmadras
Privat badeværelse
Massage på værelset
Daglig rengøring
  • 69 m2
  • Havudsigt
  • Plads til 2 personer
  • 1 queensize-seng

Bungalow (Honeymoon)

Højdepunkter

Gårdhave
Individuelt møblement
Individuelt interiør
Loftsventilator
Seng med topmadras
Privat badeværelse
Massage på værelset
Daglig rengøring
  • 81 m2
  • Havudsigt
  • Plads til 2 personer
  • 1 kingsize-seng
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Om området

Kort
Vunisea, Kadavu Island

Om overnatningsstedet

Matava - Fiji...Untouched

Resort ved havet
Nyd godt af gratis kontinental morgenmad, gratis lufthavnstransport og en terrasse hos Matava - Fiji...Untouched. Eventyrlystne rejsende vil synes godt om mulighederne for dykning, vandring/cykling og beachvolley hos dette resort. Lad dig forkæle med body scrub-behandlinger, body wrap-behandlinger og massage i stedets spa, The Bamboo Spa. Stedets restaurant, The Terrace, der serverer internationale retter, byder på havudsigt. Prøv aktiviteter på stedet som bådsejlads, snorkling og fiskeri. Udover en have og et bibliotek kan gæster nyde godt af Wi-Fi på fællesarealer (tillægsgebyr).
Yderligere fordele inkluderer:
  • En udendørs pool
  • Badehåndklæder, bryllupsfaciliteter og massage-/behandlingsrum
  • En gavebutik, en døgnåben reception og et pengeskab i receptionen
  • Concierge-tjenester, kaffe/te i lobbyen og hjælp med udflugter/billetter
Værelsesfaciliteter
Alle værelser er individuelt møblerede og tilbyder faciliteter og tjenester såsom pengeskabe.
Ekstra faciliteter tæller:
  • Topmadrasser og ekstra senge (tillægsgebyr)
  • Badeværelser med brusere
  • Terrasse, daglig rengøring og telefoner

Sprog

Engelsk

Lignende overnatningssteder

Faciliteter på overnatningsstedet

Internet

  • Tilgængeligt på nogle fællesarealer: Wi-Fi (100 FJD pr. uge)

Parkering og transport

  • Ingen mulighed for parkering på stedet
  • Gratis lufthavnstransport tur-retur døgnet rundt på fastlagte tidspunkter
  • Gratis strandbus

Mad og drikke

  • Gratis kontinental morgenmad tilbydes hver dag fra kl. 07.00 til kl. 09.00
  • En bar/lounge
  • En restaurant
  • Kaffe og te på fællesarealer

Restauranter på stedet

  • The Terrace

Oplevelser

  • Adgang til pool døgnet rundt
  • Beachvolley
  • Bibliotek
  • Bådture
  • Dykning
  • Fiskeri
  • Kajakroning
  • Snorkling
  • Spa med stort udvalg af behandlinger
  • Udendørs pool
  • Vandre- og cykelruter
  • Yogahold
  • Økoture

Bekvemmeligheder

  • Døgnåben reception
  • Gavebutik/aviskiosk
  • Pengeskab i receptionen
  • Vaskeri

Gæstefaciliteter

  • Bryllupsfaciliteter
  • Concierge-tjenester
  • Hjælp med udflugter og billetter
  • Rengøring (dagligt)
  • Renseri-/vaskeriservice

Udendørs

  • Have
  • I en regionalpark
  • Picnicområde
  • Strandhåndklæder
  • Terrasse
  • Ved bugten

Spa med stort udvalg af behandlinger

  • 2 behandlingsrum
  • Ansigtsbehandlinger
  • Aromaterapi
  • Ayurvedic-behandlinger
  • Behandlingsrum for par
  • Body scrub-behandlinger
  • Body wrap-behandlinger
  • Massage på værelset
  • Spaen er åben hver dag
  • Udendørs behandlingsområder

Hjælp til personer med et handicap

  • Hvis du vil anmode om hjælp til personer med et handicap, bedes du kontakte overnatningsstedet via kontaktoplysningerne i din reservationsbekræftelse.
  • Adgang for kørestolsbrugere (kan være begrænset)
  • Ingen elevator

Andet

  • 1 etage
  • 10 bygninger
  • Bygget i 2002
  • Særlige rygeområder

Værelsesfaciliteter

Soveværelse

  • Ekstra seng (tillægsgebyr)
  • Topmadras

Badeværelse

  • Bruser
  • Håndklæder til rådighed
  • Privat badeværelse

Mad og drikke

  • Begrænset roomservice

Andet

  • Adgang via udendørs korridorer
  • Individuel indretning
  • Individuel møblering
  • Pengeskab
  • Telefon

Politikker

Indtjekning

Indtjekning fra kl. 14.00 til når som helst
Tidlig indtjekning afhænger af tilgængelighed
Mulighed for kontaktløs indtjekning
Minimumsalder for indtjekning: 18 år

Udtjekning

Udtjekning inden: kl. 11.00
Mulighed for kontaktløs udtjekning
Sen udtjekning afhænger af tilgængelighed

Særlige indtjekningsinstruktioner

Dette overnatningssted tilbyder transport fra lufthavnen. Gæster, som vil arrangere transport, skal kontakte overnatningsstedet 72 timer før ankomst via kontaktoplysningerne på reservationsbekræftelsen
Dette overnatningssted opkræver 4% for betalinger med kreditkort
Receptionspersonalet tager imod gæster ved ankomst til overnatningsstedet
Kontakt overnatningsstedet via oplysningerne i din reservationsbekræftelse for at få flere oplysninger
Matava ligger på øen Kadavu. Indenlandske fly er ikke inkluderet i prisen for overnatning. Der ankommer kun et begrænset antal fly til øen, og tidsplanerne varierer fra de forskellige steder. Bådtransport fra Kadavu Lufthavn til resortet er inkluderet. Gæster skal kontakte resortet med oplysninger om flyrejse og ankomst for at arrangere transport.

Adgangsmuligheder

Bemandet reception

Kæledyr

Kæledyr eller servicedyr er ikke tilladt

Børn og ekstra senge

Børn på 6 år eller derunder har ikke adgang til dette overnatningssted. Alle gæster over 6 år er velkomne
Ekstrasenge er tilgængelige mod et gebyr på 200 FJD pr. nat
Vugger (barnesenge) er ikke tilgængelige

Betalingstyper accepteret på overnatningsstedet

Vigtige oplysninger

Valgfrie tjenester

  • Gebyr for trådløst internet på fællesområder: 100 FJD pr. uge (priserne kan variere)
  • Gebyr for ekstra seng: 200 FJD pr. nat
  • Betaling med kreditkort er underlagt et tillægsgebyr på 4%

Ovenstående liste er muligvis ikke fuldstændig. Gebyrer og depositummer inkluderer muligvis ikke skat og kan ændres uden varsel.

Godt at vide

Dette overnatningssted udlejes af en professionel vært, der udlejer som en virksomhed eller et erhverv.
Gebyrer for ekstra opredninger kan forekomme og varierer afhængigt af overnatningsstedets politik
Gyldigt billed-ID og kreditkort, debetkort eller kontant depositum kan være påkrævet ved indtjekning til dækning af påløbende udgifter
Særlige ønsker afhænger af tilgængelighed ved indtjekning og kan medføre ekstra gebyrer. Særlige ønsker kan ikke garanteres
Dette overnatningssted accepterer kreditkort. Kontanter accepteres ikke
Dette overnatningssted har udendørsområder såsom altaner, balkoner eller terrasser, der muligvis ikke er egnede for børn. Hvis du har spørgsmål, anbefaler vi, at du kontakter overnatningsstedet inden ankomst for at bekræfte, at de har et passende værelse til dig
Bemærk venligst, at kulturelle normer og gæstepolitik varierer afhængigt af land og overnatningssted. De angivne politikker kommer fra overnatningsstedet
Dykning og rekreative fiskeaktiviteter skal bestilles på forhånd.
Hvis du afbestiller din reservation, er dette underlagt værtens afbestillingspolitik. I overensstemmelse med EU's regler om forbrugerrettigheder er reservation af overnatning ikke omfattet af fortrydelsesretten.

Vi bør nævne

Dette overnatningssted har ingen elevatorer
Adgang til poolen døgnet rundt
Reservationer er påkrævet for massagebehandlinger og spabehandlinger. Reservationer kan foretages ved at tage kontakt til overnatningstedet inden ankomst via kontaktoplysningerne i reservationsbekræftelsen
Børn på 6 år og derunder er ikke tilladt på dette overnatningssted
Kun registrerede gæster kan opholde sig på værelserne
Der kan være begrænset adgang til visse faciliteter. Gæster kan kontakte overnatningsstedet for flere oplysninger via kontaktoplysningerne i reservationsbekræftelsen
Ingen kæledyr er tilladt på overnatningsstedet. Dette gælder også servicedyr som f.eks. førerhunde
Gæster under 16 år har ikke adgang til spaen

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Ofte stillede spørgsmål

Har Matava - Fiji...Untouched en pool?

Ja, dette overnatningssted har en udendørs pool. Der er adgang til poolen døgnet rundt.

Er Matava - Fiji...Untouched et kæledyrsvenligt overnatningssted?

Nej, kæledyr er ikke tilladt på dette overnatningssted.

Hvor meget koster parkering hos Matava - Fiji...Untouched?

Matava - Fiji...Untouched tilbyder ikke parkering.

Hvornår er indtjekning på Matava - Fiji...Untouched?

Indtjekning fra kl. 14.00 til når som helst.

Hvornår er udtjekning på Matava - Fiji...Untouched?

Udtjekning er kl. 11.00.

Tilbyder Matava - Fiji...Untouched shuttletransport til lufthavnen?

Ja, der er gratis lufthavnstransport.

Hvor ligger Matava - Fiji...Untouched?

Dette resort med spa ligger nær stranden i Kadavu Island og er også i samme region som Waisalima Strand, Mai Strand og Ono Strand.

Anmeldelser af Matava - Fiji...Untouched

Anmeldelser

9,0

Fantastisk

Bedømmelse på 10 − Fremragende. 14 af i alt 22 anmeldelser
Bedømmelse på 8 − Udmærket. 5 af i alt 22 anmeldelser
Bedømmelse på 6 − Okay. 2 af i alt 22 anmeldelser
Bedømmelse på 4 − Dårligt. 0 af i alt 22 anmeldelser
Bedømmelse på 2 − Forfærdeligt. 1 af i alt 22 anmeldelser

8,8/10

Rengøring

9,2/10

Service og personale

8,0/10

Faciliteter

8,4/10

Overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter

Anmeldelser

10/10 Fremragende

Uschi, Munich & San Francisco

Rejste med familie
Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, faciliteter, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter
Matava really feels like Fiji untouched: A nature jewel in midst of the jungle, no streets, no shops, only yourself, good company with similar guests staying in max. 10 huts, the sun and the sea - a dream for scuba divers and snorkelers alike. Take a breath and unwind. Please note Matava is NOT suitable for the common main stream tourist looking for the usual entertainment provided by big resorts.
Overnattede 6 nætter i januar 2020

10/10 Fremragende

Verificeret rejsende

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort
Overnattede 4 nætter i august 2018

10/10 Fremragende

Bob, Hong Kong

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort
A beautiful setting on the water far away from almost everything. Comfortable but not fancy. Food is tasty but not gourmet. Didn't stay long enough
Overnattede 2 nætter i juli 2018

10/10 Fremragende

Nojo, Los Angeles

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Truly nice place to stay!

We stayed there for two weeks. It was amazing. We had not relaxed that much in a long time. Away from noise. Away from people. Away from civilization. Away from craziness. Away from internet world. Away from busy world. True meaning of "Getaway" here. Facility was nicely done. It was like a small village. Having our own bure with ocean view patio was very very nice. We felt much of privacy, safe and comfortable. All the amenity was functioning well and we did had any problem whole time we stayed there. Staff was very very friendly but caring and professional. Food was excellent! Snorkel and diving was super. Walking in the jungle was very special. This place is not for the party people. But for the people who loves nature and truly deserve to relax, and enjoy Fiji. A truly special place. I would definitely love to go back there.
Overnattede 12 nætter i oktober 2017

8/10 Udmærket

LULU, Los Angeles, CA

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Matava

My brother and I decided to stay here because we wanted to snorkel the Great Astrolabe Reef. Overall, this place was comfortable, clean, in a great location, with very friendly staff. The journey here is a 45 minute boat ride, the only way to get to the resort, through beautiful coral reef clusters. Make sure to wear your sunscreen, tie down your hat, and long sleeves before you take off, as the boat is not covered. At the resort, you will do all of the activities together with the other residents, such as diving, eating meals, etc ... Electricity in the room worked during the hours they told us it would be available. However, down at the main burre, there is a 24 hour charging station where you charge any device at any time. The resort has a beautiful coral reef in front of it, that you can snorkel at any time. They also offer kayaks, snorkeling equipment, and a local map to hike to the local village with a waterfall. My recommendation for this resort is to stay here for as long as you can here, because if you have a long list of activities you would like to do, you most likely wont be able to complete them all. The staff needs some time to prepare for the activities that are separate from the usual daily morning dives, such as snorkeling at night. I dont think this is unusual for any resort in Fiji in general, but its best to go in knowing you wont be able to do everything. The culture is just slow and therefore you need time.

2/10 Forfærdeligt

Terry, Scotland

Synes ikke om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Absolutely dreadful experience - avoid this place

This is the worst hotel I have ever stayed in - avoid it like the plague. The roof in my room leaked resulting in a pool of water on the floor whenever it rained. The windows did not fit properly and did not close, which together with the gaps between the tops of the walls and the roof resulted in constant wind noise and drafts. I have never seen such a shoddily built room. There is nothing authentic about it. I stayed in four other hotels during this trip to Fiji, all of which were considerably cheaper than Matava and infinitely better quality, so this is in no way typical of Fiji. The transfer from the airport was in a small open boat which I nicknamed "Spinebuster". I was sat on a hard wooden bench, and whilst the sea was relatively calm, was bumped and bounced the whole journey. There was also considerable spray from the sea, although full so'westers were provided to deal with this. The purpose of my holiday to Kadavu was to dive the Astrolobe Reef. Whilst several of the staff at Matava wear shirts encouraging you to dive the Astrolobe Reef I was unable to do so even once in my week's stay. Whilst Matava has two custom dive boats, one was out of action with electrical problems the whole of my stay and the second was often unavailable. "Spinebuster" was offered as an alternative, but after one dive on it where I came back almost hypothermic due to the windchill and sea spray I refused to dive from it again (and I dive in Scotland in winter). Poor dive sites were offered.

6/10 Okay

Verificeret rejsende

Synes godt om: Rengøring, værelsets komfort
Synes ikke om: Overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter

Poor ownership

The resort lived up to expectations though expensive. Staff excellent and helpful. Owner only seemed interested in certain visitors not speaking to our group- even when a member of the group was very sick.

10/10 Fremragende

おばシュノーケラー, Tokyo

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

素晴らしい景色と静かな夜、楽しく親切なスタッフ

自然が身近に感じられるナチュラルリゾート。それなりの値段ではありますが。特にハネムーンブレに泊まったので、プライベート感がありました。海で泳ぎ、ブレのバルコニーで日光浴、というのは最高の贅沢ですよね。

10/10 Fremragende

Annie, Australia

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Matava experience

Enjoyed every minute, sad to leave. Staff were friendly and very helpful. Would definitely return.

10/10 Fremragende

Verificeret rejsende

Synes godt om: Service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort
Great place to stay, amazing staff and very involved owners. The rooms are basic, but comfortable. The location is amazing. The food was great and there was ample to go around! If you want an inclusive place to stay this is it. You all dine together and the staff drink Kava and play cards with you in the evenings. The activities are well organised too. I would definitely recommend this place.

8/10 Udmærket

Orla, Ireland

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Real getaway

Loved the getaway factor. The fijian people looking after you were so kind and pleasant. You have to be able to and want to socialise as all meals are together. Might not suit everyone. Fantastic place to learn to scuba dive.

8/10 Udmærket

Alex, Moscow

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Активный отдых

Небольшой отель с домашней атмосферой. Очень располагает для занятия дайвингом и снорклингом. Питание достойное, но не восхитительное. Напитки за отдельную плату.

10/10 Fremragende

Mikkel, Bryllupsreise bure med utsikt

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Alt var helt fantastisk! Super mat, service!

Dette var bra! Anbefaler alle som vil oppleve det ekte Fiji og slappe av. Trenger ikke å dykke selvom det var fantastisk!

8/10 Udmærket

Verificeret rejsende

Synes godt om: Service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter

Kompromiss fuer Naturfreunde

Nicht für Leute die ein Komfort suchen. Aber wenn jemand in Natur ein schönes und still komfortables Platz sucht, dann es ist ein Optimales Kompromiss.

6/10 Okay

Dave, australia

Synes godt om: Rengøring

mmm... only just adequate

For an Eco Lodge and what it provided the rates were very expensive... too much! Food was Ok but lots of Carbs with minimal fresh fuit and vegies... relied on deep sea fishing clients to catch fish that were kept by the resort and fed to the staff and guests. lovely aquatic environment, friendly staff but resort lacking in quality for what they charge.

10/10 Fremragende

Liam & Elesha, Sydney, Australia

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Truly a pleasurable stay!

A fantastic resort! All the staff are there to please. Food was brilliant. Plenty of great activities to do and the staff are happy to tailor a plan to suit your needs.

10/10 Fremragende

Michael

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Exzellentes Ressort

Ein wunderbarer Ort zum Tauchen und Ruhe finden. Eine sehr schöne Anlage, umwerfend freundliches Personal, herausragendes Essen, optimale Lage. Kurz und knapp: selten fühlten wir uns so wohl wie an diesem Ort.

10/10 Fremragende

jj, NZ

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

True island living

If you are looking for a true Fiji island experience, living simply, getting away from it all, resting and enjoying nature - this is it! Explore the forest, visit the village, meet the locals as you get lost in the bush, slow down and experience the genuine hospitality and care of these wonderful people who work at Matava. Maggie was a star providing entertainment mixed with great island knowledge. The food was great- no choice but that makes it easier in a way, the fish caught only hours ago. It's a divers and snorkelers paradise. If you need luxury and western style comfort this is not the place for you. If you want to get away from it all and enjoy the simplicity of nature and people with open hearts then you will have a fantastic time- as we did. Leaving it felt we were saying goodbye to family.

10/10 Fremragende

Trevor&franny, Wellington NZ/Scotland UK

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

paradise is worth the journey

This is a remote eco hotel. It is basic in amenity but that which is provided is of the highest order considering its location.Simplicity with excellence would be its trademark. Such hotels tend to attract a certain type of person . People who just want to chill in perfect peace, those devoted to scuba diving or fishing or snorkelling. Others who just want to walk and explore in the surrounding countryside and villages. All who come seem to delight in each others company and tales of their days experiences at the communal dining tables where the conversation is enlightening and stimulating. What a special place this is!

10/10 Fremragende

Verificeret rejsende

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Matava Resort Ranks Top

Leave your high heels at home, this resort is not for whimps. Matava is for adventure lovers, open-minded and green travelers. Matava has a great atmosphere, most friendly and welcoming staff we've ever seen, high quality food, amazing dives, great location, environmentally sound hotel, very quiet and peaceful environment, opportunity to do activities such as walking, birdwatching, diving, fishing, etc. We had the chance to learn more about local culture, food and traditions. We've visited the neighbouring village and meet the children from the local school. We were greated with songs and smiles. We highly recommend to walk with a guide to the village and waterfall since the trail was quite treacherous, but fun. The SCUBA diving was amazing and Te, the dive master, was knowledgeable and made new divers feel safe. Maggie, George, Ta and all the others were always available to answer our questions and make us feel at home, Sala made great massages and the chef made healthy and tasty food from their organic garden. Overall it was more than what we've expected.

8/10 Udmærket

Anne, Victoria, Australia

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Escape to a simpler life

We were looking for a quiet, relaxing week somewhere warm and Matava was perfect. Flight to Kadavu and boat trip to the resort a great start. Remote location, no traffic, few guests, delightful staff, good food. Bures very private with outlook over the sea to the island and reef beyond. Interesting walks through the jungle or along the beach. Good bird watching, kayaking, snorkeling. Other guests who were there for the diving seemed very satisfied. We were disappointed not to have the chance to go fishing as there were boat engine problems. Simple entertainment, reading, scrabble, Jenga, talking. There were birthday and wedding celebrations during our stay and the staff were brilliant. We visited the local village, experienced a kava ceremony, and generally felt we were seeing something of old Fiji in an unspoiled setting.

10/10 Fremragende

Eve27, Belgium

Synes godt om: Rengøring, service og personale, overnatningsstedets tilstand og faciliteter, værelsets komfort

Most beautiful place on earth!

Matava was the most beautiful place we've ever been to! I really hope we can go back sometime... Because it's on the island of Kadavu its very remote from everything. But as a guest you hardly have to miss any comfort. Okay there's no tv or aircon in the bure's but the staff does everything they can to make your stay as comfortable and entertaining as possible! They have a way of making every guest feel special. We did our first dive there and it was like everyone there knew about it. They all asked how it went and if we enjoyed ourselves! All the staff knew us by name and we knew all of their names. It really has a family kinda feel to it! The bure's are very clean and spacious. As is the bathroom. The food was divine, and there was plenty of it!!! Beautiful snorkeling and diving! Alex, the diving instructor, was very patient and calm. Perfect for our first dive! Everything was perfect!! No complaints at all!!